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Dear Cherokee friends, you'll be pleased to know that the Cherokees probably came here voluntarily. They are none other than the Cilician Phoenicians who lived in what is now a part of Armenia and Turkey. Nearly all the names of the Cherokees point to this fact. I'll soon have a complete article about this in the Graham Hancock Website. It will appear in about April.

Gene D. Matlock




On March 8, 2003, the following gentleman, a descendant of Hindus and Amerindians, asked me to clarify the Hindu ancestry of his Amerindian ancestors. As you shall see, some of the information handed down to him by word of mouth was very, very accurate.

Greetings Mr. Matlock,

Congratulations on your excellent and unique research on the ancient Hindu connection with Native America. My name is ________ ________, and I am a product of the two cultures. My father came from Calcutta to the U.S. in 1916 and married a Seminole. I would like to know more about this ancient connection. My mother is a descendant of a band of Seminoles that originated from the Yamassees and Tuskigi who had intermarried with I believe some of the early Moorish/Portuguese families i.e. the surname Sena is found among some of my Factor ancestors. Sena is a Sephardic name of Portuguese Moorish origin. My third great grandmother was

Issabella Mora, a Pardo Minorcan refugee from St. Augustine, FL. dob ca. 1783

who had married John Reed, a mixed blood Creek Indian trader employed by the

Turnbulls. I was told that the Yemassee Indians and the Moors were

descendants of the Phoenicians and Carthiginians…I would appreciate any comment that clarifies my family's history.

Thank you. ________

ANSWER:

Dear Mr. ________,

I really enjoyed getting this information for you. Not only was it easy to find, but I didn't have to do any guesswork. All the information I'm sending you is valid. It pleased me to be able to help our American Indians find out about their Old World origins.

For now, I am going to deal only with the Muskokis (Creeks), Seminoles, Yamasees, and Apalachees in this letter. Nearly all the tribes and many place names in Southeastern United States have Hindu names.

The YAMASEES: Yama was a name of the Asvin Brothers or the Eastern Hebrews (Panis and Yuddhis). "Hebrew" derives from "Khyber" or "Kubera", an ancient Yadava group who left the Khyber Mountains and migrated to what are now Rajasthan and Gujarat. Later, they mastered the art of shipbuilding and sailing, becoming the founders of all world civilizations. The Hindus say that all this happened about 30,000 years ago. Pani = "International Trader." Yuddhi = "Conqueror; Warrior". Many millenniums afterwards, the ancient partnership disintegrated. We know them now as the Phoenicians and the Jews. Yamasee derives from the Sanskrit Yameza, meaning "Having Yama as ruler." Yama was the ancient Hindu God of Death, but he was also the Regent of the South. For this reason, we know that your Yamasee ancestors were from Southwestern India or Sri Lanka. They spoke a Dravidian dialect.

The APALACHEES. They derived their name from Palaza, a name of ancient Maghada, a powerful Yadava kingdom in what is now today's state of Bihar. When the Palazis came to America, they came with the intention of staying. Therefore, they became the Apalizis (Ex-Palazis). Without a doubt, these "Apalazis" were the founders of the mound-building cultures, for in other parts of the world they built the Egyptian pyramids, became the founding fathers of Greek civilization, and the like.

The 17th century scholar, Edward Pococke, wrote in his book India in Greece:

"Pelasa, the ancient name for the province of Bihar….Pelaska is a derivative form of Pelasa, whence the Greek 'Pelasgos'…

"I have ascertained the existence of Pelasgian tribes; not as vagrant gypsies, but firmly settled as powerful nations, at a period for the most part prior to our historical knowledge of Greece…there was a time when the Pelasgians, then perhaps more widely spread than any other people of Europe, extended from the Po and the Arno, almost to the Bosphorus…The Celts were the descendants of the Pelasgians." (p. 31.)

"So vast were their settlements, and so firmly rooted were the very names of the kingdoms, the nomenclature of the tribes - nay, the religious systems of the oldest forms of society - that I do not scruple to assert that the successive map of Spain, Italy, Greece, Asia Minor, Persia, and India may be read like the chart of an emigrant." (p. 32.)

The YAT'SIMINOLI ("Free People" or Seminoles). Evidently, they were also the "Free People" back in India, for there they were called Yat'Samanala. Yat = "Moving; Traveling." Sama = "Happy; Prosperous." Nala = "A branch of the Yamas or Ashvin Brothers (Phoenicians and Jews).

The MUSKOKIS (Creeks). These were the Phoenician slave caste of Meshechs. In ancient times, they were the terror of the world. They were an especially wild tribe of mongoloid Scythians or Tartars. We Westerners also know them as the Hunas or Huns.The Hindus called them Maheshakas, Rakshasas, Pisacas, and Hunas. When these Meshechs made life impossible for the civilized people of India, Kubera banished them to Sri Lanka. Life in Sri Lanka did nothing to sweeten their collective disposition. Therefore, Kubera packed them in airships and sea-going vessels, taking them to America (Patala).

My guess is that the peaceful Yat'Siminoli, Apalachees, and Yamasees could not stand up to them in the New World. They probably said to themselves, "If we can't beat them, we'll join them."





Here's my info about the Cherokees. As I said, I have all this set up to put in the gooff website so that other's can derive some benefit from this.

Gene

A Cherokee man wrote me the following comments after I told him something of what I know about his tribe's origins:

"That makes sense -- the Melungeons are from Turkey, also. The Cherokees sure liked the Turkish Navy uniforms, and adopted them as traditional dress for a while -- even to this day!

"So my dad was right when he called me a "young Turk!"

"In 1750, our Chief, Attakullakulla, pulled the nation together and told them we came here from the rising sun in a migration that predated the stone age people."

ANSWER:

Before getting started with what I want to tell you, I hope you won't feel offended when I tell you that I don't think the Cherokees predated the stone age people here. They were ( and are ) an extremely intelligent and progressive people. I feel that had they been here that long, they would have caught up with Europe by then.

Basically, by the time the Spaniards arrived, they were just getting started all over again. I would agree that your people did arrive with the Melungeons. I have read also that many of America's civilized tribes fell backwards after the Hindus left, leaving them almost powerless before the more aggressive Mesechs. You can compare their plight with that of the Roman colonies after the barbarians destroyed the Roman Empire.

When the Spaniards first arrived in the Americas, they found the Cherokees to be a peaceful, hard-working agricultural people. Although they lived in simple thatch huts coated with mud, their village squares did have beautiful pyramidical temples. They were excellent farmers. The Spaniards wrote that they could gallop on horseback all day without making the circuit of their corn fields.

Physically, they were and are an extremely attractive people, looking more like Middle Easterners or Hindus than our stereotypical images of Amerindian Indian types. Like the Hindus, Cherokee men wore turbans.

Unlike most Indic tribes, who were banished to America for their cannibalism, savagery, and refusal to civilize themselves, the Cherokees left India of their own volition.

The Cherokees' legends state that they came from some Far Eastern country on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean. Their land of origin was highly developed with large buildings and paved roads. According to their legends, when certain wise men began to use their power to oppress the common people, the Cherokees boarded ships and sailed to America. This is also the reason why the Hopis, Navajos, Apaches, Utes, Supais, and others escaped from India.

As with all other Amerindian Tribes, the supreme god of the Cherokees was Shiva, whom they called Yehowa or Yova - derived from the North Indian words for eldertain: Yava, Yavha, or Ja-ovaha. Their word for "Spirit" is Adanvdo. In Sanskrit, Adan-Vadhu = "The Wife of God Adam." (Deva-Vadhu = "Wife of a God".) Back in India, they probably worshipped a mother goddess as one of their principal deities.

Their real name is not "Cherokee," but Tsalagi (Sssalagi). This word Tsalagi is almost identical to the real pronunciation of the ancient Central Asian Phoenician nation we mistakenly call "Cilicia."

Cilicia -- occurs in two forms of spelling. In the Phoenician script it is spelt 'Sssilokay,' and in the Ogam, which possesses fewer alphabetic letters it is written 'Siolagga.' This clearly designates the 'Cilicia' of the Romans, the 'Kilikia' of the Greeks and the 'Xilakku' or 'Xilakki' of the Babylonians, the maritime country of eastern Asia Minor, bordering the northeast corner of the Mediterranean It was early occupied by the Phoenicians.

So intimately -- were the Phoenicians identified with Cilicia, that later classic Greek writers, when the exact relationship of Cilicia to the Phoenicians had become forgotten, still make the Cilicians to be 'the brothers' of the Phoenicians. (The Phoenician Origin of the Britons, Scots, and Anglo-Saxons; by L. A. Waddell; p. 41.)

The Cilicians -- not infrequently recorded their 'Cilician' ancestry on their sacred monuments and tombstones in foreign colonies, but also translated their cherished name 'Cilicia' to some of the new colonies.

Cilician colonists -- were in the habit of not returning to their native land, Strabo tells us; and patriotically they sometimes transplanted their homeland name of 'Cilicia' to their new colonies. (Ibid; p. 43.)

Readers may want to point out that "Cilicia" was located in what are now Armenia and Turkey. However, these two nations were once part of "Greater India," which extended to Eastern Siberia as far south as Sri Lanka, In Central Asia and the Middle East, it extended west almost to the eastern gates of Damascus, Syria. Little by little, India began to break apart, as it is doing even now. Persia separated from India in about 1,000 BC. Afghanistan pulled away from the association during the early 18th century. After World War II, Pakistan also became an exclusive non-Indian entity.

We must recondition our minds to understand that the Phoenicians were really a Hindu sea-going caste of traders and not a separate ethnicity disassociated from India. India and Phoenicia were linked as is proven by Hannibal's use of Indian elephants and mahouts (elephant masters) in his failed conquest of Rome. Even the real name of the North African Phoenician nation of Carthaginia or Carthage, Kartuk, derives from that of a Hindu god of war, Kartikeya.

What was the meaning of the word "Cilicia?" The Dravidian derived languages tell us exactly: Kilakku = "Hindu Sailor." The Cheras and Keras of Southern India and Kerala were famous mariners who sailed to every part of the globe. I am convinced that the Cilicians and Tsalagis derived their names from those two peoples, for a name of Kerala was Keraka; A Kerakan was known as Keraki. The compound word Chera-ko means "Chera-King" or "Chera-Royalty." A title of the Chera royal dynasty was Sekhara or Sekhari. Again, we have an ancient name of the Cherokees.

It's possible that the Cherokees and the mysterious Melungeons of Tennessee went to America together.

The Greek historian Herodotus mentions the Melungeons by name and comments on their disappearance from Armenia and Turkey, during the Greco-Persian War of 490-497 BC. They lived near a river Tenasi.

North of the country of the Royal Scythians are the "Melanchaeni (Black Robes)", a people of quite a different race from the Scythians...the Melanchaeni...instead of defending themselves, when the Scythes and Persians overran their lands...fled away...to the deserts lying towards the North.

After they disappeared from Armenia and Turkey, no one ever heard of them again in Eastern Europe ( but we do find them again in what is now Southeastern United States, living in a region and alongside a river that the Cherokees called Tanasi (Tennessee, as the English-speaking settlers pronounced the word), calling themselves Melungeons. It appears certain that they fled to Cilicia, boarding Phoenician boats for America. In America, the Melungeons migrated to Tanasi, giving the region some of the same place names as a reminder of their ancient homeland back in Armenia and Turkey. The Phoenician Cilicians (our Cherokees) who took them there surely stayed as well. Remember: Herodotus said that they were not in the habit of returning from their long voyages, but remained in the new countries they settled, naming them "Cilicia" also. I can name other Turkic-Cherokee place names, but I have decided to let the Cherokees and Melungeons themselves investigate this startling anomaly. They won't be disappointed!

The Phoenicians and Melungeons knew exactly where they were going in order to escape from the Greeks and Persians forever. Long before the birth of Christ, the Phoenicians left their millenniums-old homeland in the Khyber Mountains of Northern India to exploit the whole world commercially, They claimed to have a secret land on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean. They christened it Kheeberia (Khyber Land). The Khybers or Kheeveris were none other than our biblical Heber a.k.a. Hebrews.

They also called the part of Kheeberia lying on the Southwestern coast of today's Veracruz, Mexico, Al Atlantis. There must be some truth to the story because the Indians of Mexico told the Spanish conquerors that all of North America was named Quivira (Kheevira). There were probably Cherokees already living in Quivira when the Cherokee and Melungeon refugees from the Greco-Persian wars arrived here.

Quivira -- is The Land of New Spain. ( El Orgen de los Indios; by the Spanish priest, Gregorio Garca; written in 1607; p. 81.)

Although Western historians give little mention of the Phoenicians' links with India, causing us to think that they just "combusted" somewhere in the Middle East, the Phoenicians preserved their memories of and links with India until the time the Romans destroyed Carthaginia in 146 BC.

After the Romans destroyed the Carthage, the Western Phoenicians (non-Hindus) never again crossed the Atlantis to America. However, the survivors and the East India Phoenicians (Asvin Brothers) continued sailing to America via the Pacific, from what are now the Indian coastal states of Mysore (Misuri), Karnataka (ancient Kannada), and Kerala. Ships also sailed to America from what is now Sri Lanka.

The origin legends of the Northern Cherokee of Old Louisiana Territory mention a later Cherokee flight to Quivira in the first century AD. According to the stories handed down to them, some of their ancestors escaped from Masada, Israel, after the Romans attacked it. Too proud to surrender, most of the defenders of Masada committed mass suicide.

The fathers of the Cherokees who were at Masada, preferred to go on living. They escaped. After that, they eventually settled in Quivira. This story is entirely believable, for since the time of Solomon up to the Moslem conquest, Jewish refugees had been fleeing to Mysore (Misuri), Kerala, and Karnataka (ancient Kannada). Even when Hitler launched his holocaust of Jews, many Jews sought security in India.

At the time of Christ, one of the greatest concentrations of Jews beyond Rome, Greece, and Israel had been living in India. After arriving in Quivira, some Cherokees migrated to present day Missouri, joining a prior tribe that had been there for centuries. I am assuming that these were the Hindu Misuris, for they were among the predecessors of all the other tribes that went to live in that region.

If what I have mentioned thus far about the Cherokees is insufficient evidence that they descended from Phoenicians, perhaps some of their other tribal names will help skeptics decide: Cawtaba (Khatti-Ava); Ketuva (Ket-Ava) = Phoenician People. Their worldwide place and ethnic names beginning and ending in such syllables as Khet, Shet, Ketu, Shetu, Kad, Khat, Khit, Khitu, Get, Gades, Gad, Goth, etc., tell us exactly who traded with and civilized (or at least tried to) every nation on earth.

The Cherokees have another tribal name, Ani-yunviya, meaning "Principal People." Their Sanskrit or Indic name was Anu (God Shiva; minute; atomic) plus Yoni (womb; uterus; vulva; vagina; family; race; origin) + Bija (semen; seed; primary cause or principal; source; origin): Anu-yonbija. Even in Ancient India, they wanted everyone to know that they were "The Principal People."

Still another Cherokee tribal name, Anniyaya, tells us that they descend from Anu, a son of Yaya(ti). Yaya or Yayati is a Hindu name for Japhet, a son of Noah. Japhet also became Jupiter and our Jehovah. Anikituvagi = "Belonging to the Phoenicians." Tsalagihi-Ayili = "Belonging to the Family of Cilicia."

The Cherokees don't need to guess about their origins. However, the tales about their origins vary from band to band. I feel that if they combined similar elements in each of their origin legends, they would get an entirely culturally satisfying and valid account of their remotest history. Although I have found many Tennessee and Missouri Cherokee place names derived from Turkic and Indic sources, much more work still needs to be done.

Additionally, we must find the Cherokee names of all the areas they occupied outside of Tennessee and Missouri. I feel that we should bring in Hindu experts in oriental languages and cultures, to help clarify matters as well.

Now that we know that all peoples in this country are immigrants, how must we react? All of us came here voluntarily or were brought by force. Some even came in chains. Let's give thanks to God that the important thing to consider is that we're here. If they had their way, three-fourths of the world would love to be brought here by any way possible. As we see by the thousands of people attempting to enter this country every day, many millions of people on this earth would choose slavery in the United States than "freedom" in their countries of origin.

When I read the information on Amerindian websites and read books written by Amerindian activists, I intuit much resentment against Whites. But here's a truth that we're all overlooking. A majority of "Whites" in this country have Indian blood in their veins. While I admit that the Southwestern Puebloans are our purest of Amerindian stocks, in my travels around this country, I have not failed to notice that the other Amerindian tribes look like the "rainbow coalition" to me. What good can come from hacking at each other for being either "White" or "Indian," when nearly all of us are mixed bloods?




I sat down tonight and notified a large number of Amerindian sites about the article. It will be downright funny if some of them call me a liar because all I did was take seriously the American Indians' own origin accounts and follow them through. And with an actual Half-Hindu-Half Seminole also in agreement that there's something "curry and ricey" about American Indian cultures? I'll probably think of a answer like, "Do you mean to tell me you don't believe your tribe's own History?" I guess some of them may prefer to believe the White Man's story that they much preferred to freeze their butts to solid ice, crossing over the Bering Strait!

here's another attachment of how the Hindus tended to use East (Tala, Tula, Tule, or Thule) as the Top of the World with Mt. Kailas in Western Tibet as the navel of the Upper World. Atala(n) was the Under World with Amara/Ameru as the Under World which lay somewhere in Peru. Even Peru is a Sanskrit word meaning "Place of Much Gold." Because of the lower world being Atala(n), we have no doubt of the existence of ancient Atlantis because "Desha" means "Nation." Atalandesha = "A Nation in the Underworld."

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As you can see, Amerigo Vespucci did not give America its name - but the Hindus.

Gene




thanks for sending me that information. I'm not an expert with the computer. Did the word "truncated" mean that you didn't get a good copy from me? Let me know, and I'll send it as an attachment.

I'm really pleased with myself for having found out so much about the Cherokees with so little to go on. By the way, the word Ketoovah comes from the Sanskrit, Ketu-Va (Phoenician Residence). People don't always realize that the Phoenicians didn't call themselves Phoenicians.

I've always thought that there had to be some kind of relationship between the Cherokees and the Mayas.

Also, the Cherokees probably came over to the New World in waves, not all at once. Later on, as we get to this in greater detail, I'm going to send you some pictures that will really blow your mind!

I'll write to your grandfather in a little while.

Thanks for the information.

Don't forget to send me the handling charges for the book sold in Tulsa. I want to send off for it Monday.

Gene





I'm sending you the info again as an attachment, just in case it didn't come out right for you.

Also, since the Ketu, Khatti, etc., were traders, they made multiple voyages to America. Only God knows how many!

Gene

Mr. ________ ________, a Cherokee man and scholar of the history, legends, and prophecies of the Cherokees, wrote me the following comments after I told him something of what I know about his tribe's origins:

"That makes sense…the Melungeons are  supposedly from Turkey, also. The Cherokees sure liked the Turkish Navy uniforms, and adopted them as traditional dress for a while…even to this day! The traditional Cherokee dress of the early 1800s was almost identical to a Turkisk seaman of the same period!

"So my dad was right when he called me a "young Turk!"

"In 1750, our Chief, Attakullakulla, pulled the nation together and told them we came here from the rising sun in a migration that predated the stone age people."

ANSWER:

Before getting started with what I want to tell you, I hope you won't feel offended when I tell you that I don't think the Cherokees predated the stone age people here. They were - and are - an extremely intelligent and progressive people. I feel that had they been here that long, they would have caught up with Europe by then.

Basically, by the time the Spaniards arrived, they were just getting started all over again. I would agree that your people did arrive with the Melungeons. I have read also that many of America's civilized tribes fell backwards after the Hindus left, leaving them almost powerless before the more aggressive Mesechs. You can compare their plight with that of the Roman colonies after the barbarians destroyed the Roman Empire.

When the Spaniards first arrived in the Americas, they found the Cherokees to be a peaceful, hard-working agricultural people. Although they lived in simple thatch huts coated with mud, their village squares did have beautiful pyramidical temples. They were excellent farmers. The Spaniards wrote that they could gallop on horseback all day without making the circuit of their corn fields.

Physically, they were and are an extremely attractive people, looking more like Middle Easterners or Hindus than our stereotypical images of Amerindian Indian types. Like the Hindus, Cherokee men wore turbans.

Unlike most Indic tribes, who were banished to America for their cannibalism, savagery, and refusal to civilize themselves, the Cherokees left India of their own volition.

The Cherokees' legends state that they came from some Far Eastern country on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean. Their land of origin was highly developed with large buildings and paved roads. According to their legends, when certain wise men began to use their power to oppress the common people, the Cherokees boarded ships and sailed to America. This is also the reason why the Hopis, Navajos, Apaches, Utes, Supais, and others escaped from India.

As with all other Amerindian Tribes, the supreme god of the Cherokees was Shiva, whom they called Yehowa or Yova - derived from the North Indian words for eldertain: Yava, Yavha, or Ja-ovaha. Their word for "Spirit" is Adanvdo. In Sanskrit, Adan-Vadhu = "The Wife of God Adam." (Deva-Vadhu = "Wife of a God".) Back in India, they probably worshipped a mother goddess as one of their principal deities.

Their real name is not "Cherokee," but Tsalagi (Sssalagi). This word Tsalagi is almost identical to the real pronunciation of the ancient Central Asian Phoenician nation we mistakenly call "Cilicia."

Cilicia…occurs in two forms of spelling. In the Phoenician script it is spelt 'Sssilokay,' and in the Ogam, which possesses fewer alphabetic letters it is written 'Siolagga.' This clearly designates the 'Cilicia' of the Romans, the 'Kilikia' of the Greeks and the 'Xilakku' or X'ilakki' of the Babylonians, the maritime country of eastern Asia Minor, bordering the northeast corner of the Mediterranean It was early occupied by the Phoenicians.

So intimately…were the Phoenicians identified with Cilicia, that later classic Greek writers, when the exact relationship of Cilicia to the Phoenicians had become forgotten, still make the Cilicians to be 'the brothers' of the Phoenicians. (The Phoenician Origin of the Britons, Scots, and Anglo-Saxons; by L. A. Waddell; p. 41.)

The Cilicians…not infrequently recorded their 'Cilician' ancestry on their sacred monuments and tombstones in foreign colonies, but also translated their cherished name 'Cilicia' to some of the new colonies.

Cilician colonists…were in the habit of not returning to their native land, Strabo tells us; and patriotically they sometimes transplanted their homeland name of 'Cilicia' to their new colonies. (Ibid; p. 43.)

Readers may want to point out that "Cilicia" was located in what are now Armenia and Turkey. However, these two nations were once part of "Greater India," which extended to Eastern Siberia as far south as Sri Lanka, In Central Asia and the Middle East, it extended west almost to the eastern gates of Damascus, Syria. Little by little, India began to break apart, as it is doing even now. Persia separated from India in about 1,000 BC. Afghanistan pulled away from the association during the early 18th century. After World War II, Pakistan also became an exclusive non-Indian entity.

We must recondition our minds to understand that the Phoenicians were really a Hindu sea-going caste of traders and not a separate ethnicity disassociated from India. India and Phoenicia were linked as is proven by Hannibal's use of Indian elephants and mahouts (elephant masters) in his failed conquest of Rome. Even the real name of the North African Phoenician nation of Carthaginia or Carthage, Kartuk, derives from that of a Hindu god of war, Kartikeya.

What was the meaning of the word "Cilicia?" The Dravidian derived languages tell us exactly: Kilakku = "Hindu Sailor." The Cheras and Keras of Southern India and Kerala were famous mariners who sailed to every part of the globe. I am convinced that the Cilicians and Tsalagis derived their names from those two peoples, for a name of Kerala was Keraka; A Kerakan was known as Keraki. The compound word Chera-ko means "Chera-King" or "Chera-Royalty." A title of the Chera royal dynasty was Sekhara or Sekhari. Again, we have an ancient name of the Cherokees.

It's possible that the Cherokees and the mysterious Melungeons of Tennessee went to America together.

The Greek historian Herodotus mentions the Melungeons by name and comments on their disappearance from Armenia and Turkey, during the Greco-Persian War of 490-497 BC. They lived near a river Tenasi.

North of the country of the Royal Scythians are the "Melanchaeni (Black Robes)", a people of quite a different race from the Scythians...the Melanchaeni...instead of defending themselves, when the Scythes and Persians overran their lands...fled away...to the deserts lying towards the North.

After they disappeared from Armenia and Turkey, no one ever heard of them again in Eastern Europe - but we do find them again in what is now Southeastern United States, living in a region and alongside a river that the Cherokees called Tanasi (Tennessee, as the English-speaking settlers pronounced the word), calling themselves Melungeons. It appears certain that they fled to Cilicia, boarding Phoenician boats for America. In America, the Melungeons migrated to Tanasi, giving the region some of the same place names as a reminder of their ancient homeland back in Armenia and Turkey. The Phoenician Cilicians (our Cherokees) who took them there surely stayed as well. Remember: Herodotus said that they were not in the habit of returning from their long voyages, but remained in the new countries they settled, naming them "Cilicia" also. I can name other Turkic-Cherokee place names, but I have decided to let the Cherokees and Melungeons themselves investigate this startling anomaly. They won't be disappointed!

The Phoenicians and Melungeons knew exactly where they were going in order to escape from the Greeks and Persians forever. Long before the birth of Christ, the Phoenicians left their millenniums-old homeland in the Khyber Mountains of Northern India to exploit the whole world commercially, They claimed to have a secret land on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean. They christened it Kheeberia (Khyber Land). The Khybers or Kheeveris were none other than our biblical Heber a.k.a. Hebrews.

They also called the part of Kheeberia lying on the Southwestern coast of today's Veracruz, Mexico, Al Atlantis. There must be some truth to the story because the Indians of Mexico told the Spanish conquerors that all of North America was named Quivira (Kheevira). There were probably Cherokees already living in Quivira when the Cherokee and Melungeon refugees from the Greco-Persian wars arrived here.

Quivira…is The Land of New Spain. ( El Orígen de los Indios; by the Spanish priest, Gregorio García; written in 1607; p. 81.)

Although Western historians give little mention of the Phoenicians' links with India, causing us to think that they just "combusted" somewhere in the Middle East, the Phoenicians preserved their memories of and links with India until the time the Romans destroyed Carthaginia in 146 BC.

After the Romans destroyed the Carthage, the Western Phoenicians (non-Hindus) never again crossed the Atlantis to America. However, the survivors and the East India Phoenicians (Asvin Brothers) continued sailing to America via the Pacific, from what are now the Indian coastal states of Mysore (Misuri), Karnataka (ancient Kannada), and Kerala. Ships also sailed to America from what is now Sri Lanka.

The origin legends of the Northern Cherokee of Old Louisiana Territory mention a later Cherokee flight to Quivira in the first century A.D. According to the stories handed down to them, some of their ancestors escaped from Masada, Israel, after the Romans attacked it. Too proud to surrender, most of the defenders of Masada committed mass suicide.

The fathers of the Cherokees who were at Masada, preferred to go on living. They escaped. After that, they eventually settled in Quivira. This story is entirely believable, for since the time of Solomon up to the Moslem conquest, Jewish refugees had been fleeing to Mysore (Misuri), Kerala, and Karnataka (ancient Kannada). Even when Hitler launched his holocaust of Jews, many Jews sought security in India.

At the time of Christ, one of the greatest concentrations of Jews beyond Rome, Greece, and Israel had been living in India. After arriving in Quivira, some Cherokees migrated to present day Missouri, joining a prior tribe that had been there for centuries. I am assuming that these were the Hindu Misuris, for they were among the predecessors of all the other tribes that went to live in that region.

If what I have mentioned thus far about the Cherokees is insufficient evidence that they descended from Phoenicians, perhaps some of their other tribal names will help skeptics decide: Cawtaba (Khatti-Ava); Ketuva (Ket-Ava) = Phoenician People. Their worldwide place and ethnic names beginning and ending in such syllables as Khet, Shet, Ketu, Shetu, Kad, Khat, Khit, Khitu, Get, Gades, Gad, Goth, etc., tell us exactly who traded with and civilized (or at least tried to) every nation on earth.

The Cherokees have another tribal name, Ani-yunviya, meaning "Principal People." Their Sanskrit or Indic name was Anu (God Shiva; minute; atomic) plus Yoni (womb; uterus; vulva; vagina; family; race; origin) + Bija (semen; seed; primary cause or principal; source; origin): Anu-yonbija. Even in Ancient India, they wanted everyone to know that they were "The Principal People."

Still another Cherokee tribal name, Anniyaya, tells us that they descend from Anu, a son of Yaya(ti). Yaya or Yayati is a Hindu name for Japhet, a son of Noah. Japhet also became Jupiter and our Jehovah. Anikituvagi = "Belonging to the Phoenicians." Tsalagihi-Ayili = "Belonging to the Family of Cilicia." The Cherokees don't need to guess about their origins. However, the tales about their origins vary from band to band. I feel that if they combined similar elements in each of their origin legends, they would get an entirely culturally satisfying and valid account of their remotest history. Although I have found many Tennessee and Missouri Cherokee place names derived from Turkic and Indic sources, much more work still needs to be done. Additionally, we must find the Cherokee names of all the areas they occupied outside of Tennessee and Missouri. I feel that we should bring in Hindu experts in oriental languages and cultures, to help clarify matters as well.

Now that we know that all peoples in this country are immigrants, how must we react? All of us came here voluntarily or were brought by force. Some even came in chains. Let's give thanks to God that the important thing to consider is that we're here. If they had their way, three-fourths of the world would love to be brought here by any way possible. As we see by the thousands of people attempting to enter this country every day, many millions of people on this earth would choose slavery in the United States than "freedom" in their countries of origin.

When I read the information on Amerindian websites and read books written by Amerindian activists, I intuit much resentment against Whites. But here's a truth that we're all overlooking. A majority of "Whites" in this country have Indian blood in their veins. While I admit that the Southwestern Puebloans are our purest of Amerindian stocks, in my travels around this country, I have not failed to notice that the other Amerindian tribes look like the "rainbow coalition" to me. What good can come from hacking at each other for being either "White" or "Indian," when nearly all of us are mixed bloods?




I decided to send you the illustrations right now. One is a Lotus Flower and is probably one of the first maps known in the world. A Hindu geographer translated the names into English.

Notice Ketu-Mala at the left. That is what is now the coast of Veracruz, Yucatan, and Quintana Roo, Mexican coastal states. Notice that the words on the American side are Chetumal. Chetu, Shetu, Khettu, etc., are just dialectical versions of the same thing. Ketu/Chetu = Phoenician. Mala = Large Country. Uva/Ava = People. Ket-Uva or Ket-ava. Ketu-Va = Phoenician Residence.

Gene

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I've always said that we need some Hindus to get off their duffs and help us out. I, too, have always thought that Kentucky is a Hindu name, for I see this name in the Sanskrit dictionaries.

I read a lot about how divided the Cherokee bands are right now. I feel that all the Cherokee bands should be more tolerant of one another. I even read of beatings taking place at Tallequah.

What has happened is that you are all turning into different ethnicities without realizing it. It's a lot like the differences between Canadians, Americans, New Zealanders, Australians, etc. It will be only natural that your different origin legends will differ somewhat. But the kernel of truth will be there all the same. That's the most important thing.

I personally feel that elder ___________ is an honest person. I have had several E-Mails from ___. Again, your people are becoming different ethnicities. You must realize that right away and make peace with one another, being tolerant that each of the origin legends will vary a bit. This is natural.

My mother was part-Cherokee. My immigrant ancestor from England came here before the revolution and married a elder's daughter. I even have a picture of her. Even so, I just settle for being in the mainstream. I'm definitely one of those "rainbow coalition" people. And I cross my heart that I'll never get in front of a TV camera, beat on a drum, and claim to be a pure Indian. That really galls me to see that!

I'm sending you a picture of the pre-civil Cochran mansion in Mississippi. They owned a lot of slaves. After the Civil War, however, they ended up as poor cotton farmers in Arkansas.

Gene






My mother was born in Barber, Arkansas.

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I opened up the Cherokee Phoenix Museum website. All I saw was the Phoenix bird. That name, Phoenix, speaks for itself - Phoenician. The Hindu Phoenix bird was Garuda the Eagle.




In looking at the map, I've noticed that Bryson City, NC lies on the eastern shore of Lake Fontana. Before it became a lake, was Lake Fontana a tributary of the Tennessee River? I suppose that the Tennessee branches of from the Mississippi. If Lake Fontana was a tributary, that will account for the name of Ketuba (Residence of the Phoenicians). Were there ever any "first cities" of the Cherokees on the Gulf and Atlantic Coasts?

In the beginning, elder ___________ and one of her people, a man named Rick, were really chummy with me. However, now, they seem to have nothing to do with me. elder _______ is a very devout Christian, and she did not hide her feelings in letting me know that she didn't like my "demystification" of the Cherokee origin myth. But if we're going to get a good history, we have to take away the "gods," "mystical signs," and the like. If I didn't do that, it wouldn't be history. What would people think if I wrote a story about Abraham Lincoln, claiming that God was communicating with him directly? When she found out that I was removing the spirituality from this legend, she dropped me like a hot potato and never answered me again.

Gene





my wife and I went to Los Lunas, NM to see the Decalogue Stone for ourselves. The person who says that the Mormons or some University of New Mexico students faked that is crazy. The person who made that had to be an expert in making etchings on stone. Not only that, if they were going to fake it, why did they put it in such an out of the way place in the desert?

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My wife and I didn't stay very long at the site because the welcome the rattlesnakes gave us left much to be desired.

Gene



The letters I wrote to you and ________ are just above my article if you care to read them. Gene

I don't know whether or not you've read it yet, but you'll get a real eye opener if you read my other article in that website about ancient Atantis. Gene



The Zapotecs of Mexico used crystals to produce fire. When the Aztecs found out about it, they stopped using flint and bow-twirling of sticks. That became one of the main industries of the Zapotecs. By the way, the word Zapotec derives from the Sanskrit "Sa-pota," meaning "People Who Own Boats."




Elder ___________ told me that the Cherokees know about Kokopelli. Is this true? Anyway, even if they didn't, the Cherokees would BE the Kokopelli because it is just the personification of the Kuberas (Hebrews) as the Holy or Warrior twins. Please confirm or deny this if you can. I'm really interested. Gene



There's something about me that people find out sooner or later. When I was young, I used to be rental manager for my dad's four-plex apartments, 100 in all. I got calls at all hours of the day, mostly at night or in the early morning, from people needing repairs, such as a heater that stopped working. Ever since then, I have had this loathing of calling by phone. I do it once in a while in emergencies. Doesn't elder Redhat hav a computer? Gene



I want you to read this letter I have just sent to ________a. Please let me know whether you know Bobby Gonzalez, of the Caddos, and whether there has ever been any relationship between the Caddos and the Cherokees. After all, both of your groups were Phoenicians. Gene

________, you and ________ have been a godsend to me, for without you two, it would be impossible to solve this puzzle. I want to tell you now that I want to throw this word "Kula" in the wastebasket.

The trouble with me is that I can't speak Sanskrit, but I do not a jumble of words. Until you mentioned the name Apalacheecola to me, I didn't even know where it was located. Later on tonight, I went to the map and saw that it was in the swamp lands in Southern Florida, and on the Atlantic coast. This immediately brought to mind, Pensacola, in the Gulf.

As long as we keep the Indo-Phoenicians in mind, including India in the picture, we don't have to guess any longer as I was doing with the word "Kula." All we have to do is associate the name we are looking for with its function. "Cola" in Sanskrit, means "Coast". Therefore, Apalachee-Cola means "The coast of the ex-Palazas. The Palazas were the builders of the ancient world. They built Egypt, the foundations of Greek culture, and every other culture on earth. They had to have been the mound builders.

In that swampy area, they built huge mounds to build their first cities. I read a book once, by the grandfather of an ex-president of Mexico, Lopez de Portillo, in which he discussed the custom of the Indians of his home state of Nayarit (notice that this is the name of a place in India and of a Hindu leadership caste), built mounds or pyramids on which to build their homes. Much of Nayarit is a flood plain. He said in his book that he thinks this how the Amerindian custom of building pyramids started.

Over the years, I lost that book, but I'm going to get another copy somehow and read it again.

Being master builders, the Apalachee built the first mound cultures in Apalachee-cola, the first place they began to inhabit after their arrival from India. It wouldn't surprise me a bit to find important archeological relics in the area if the Atlantic hurricanes haven't destroyed them.

Since you are a Floridian, the next question is this: What importance does Apalachee-cola have for your people? Find out all you can.

Now for Pensacola. Pensacola is a great port. It has a gigantic, safe harbor. Therefore, it doesn't take much guesswork to intuit that its original name was Panisha-Cola, or the coast of the Lord Panis or Phoenicians. Again, as I say, the name goes with the game. No guesswork required. The Apalazis were builders. They built the type of edifices that could survive in the Florida swamps. The Panis were seamen and traders. Their natural place to settle first would have been in Pensacola.

Do you know of any other places in Florida, having the suffix "Cola?"

The next riddle in this jigsaw puzzle is to find out where the Cherokees fit in Pensacola, for they were the ancient world traders and sailors. Could Pensacola be sacred to them?

Also, we must find out the relationship between the Cherokees and the Caddos because the Khattis (also a name of Caddo leaders) were Phoenicians like the Cherokees.

I have had some correspondence with a Caddo leader, __________. He has cooperated a little with me. I even sent some Hindu leaders to meet him. However, he has never taken me seriously. Few American Indians do. The Puebloans won't even speak to me if they can avoid doing so. Perhaps Bobby is acquainted with ________. If he is, we may find out just what the Caddo relationship is with Pensacola.

I'm very joyful tonight, for with your help, we are piecing together information of great historical importance for not only the American Indians, but also for all the citizens of our great country.

Please find out all you can about Apalacheecola.

We must not let the skeptics and "Doubting Thomases" wear us down. By taking American Indian places names and the ancient Hindus seriously, this puzzle becomes extremely easy to solve.

Your friend, Gene

P.S. Later on, we're going to have to find out where the Iroquois fit in all this. My guess is that they were Mesechs because they were cannibals. I don't think the Caddos, Cherokees, your people, etc. would have eaten human flesh, but I can't be sure either. After the Muskokis (Creeks) conquered your people, only God knows what would have come out of that.




Dear I think you are more knowledgeable of these things than Mr. Red Hat is. I gave you some proof that the Cherokees came from Mexico the other day. But now I'm going to give you this proof in a more systematic way, so that you can convince the "Doubting Thomases" more effectively

Let's use Hindu mythology to find out whether the Cherokees ever did go to the USA from Mexico.

For instance, let's put this to the test. I'll now outline the steps, using illustrations:

While the Hindus had directions, North, South, East, West, and the intermediate points, etc., they used names of Gods, just as we would say Thursday (Thor's-day).

However, in order to describe their movements around the world, they used another method. Ancient India was the Upper World (Tala). It's navel was Mt. Meru or Mt. Kailasa in Tibet. For us, this Upper World would be "The Eastern Hemisphere." Their Under World was "Atala," For us, the "Western Hemisphere." Its navel was Ameru/Amara i.e. someplace in Peru. I know there has to be a Mt. Ameru somewhere in Peru for "Peru" is just another name of "Mt. Meru." As an inhabited part of the world, it was "Atalan." The greatest nation in "Atalan" was "Atalan-Desha," For this reason, I'm so smug about the location of "Atlantis." To say that Atlantis never existed is exactly like saying that in ancient times, only the Eastern Hemisphere existed, the world rotating in space like half of an orange.

1. See my diagram in the attachment, of this.

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Next, what do Tala/Meru and Atala/Ameru represent? They represent the direction of the major trade routes and the places where all major civilizations began - along the Tropic of Cancer.

2. See my map of this.

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Mt. Meru was represented as a Lotus flower. If the petals are bent backwards 360 degrees, they will have wrapped themselves around the world.

3. Now, look at this picture.

Notice that the point of one of the left petals points directly at a land called Ketu-Mala - Country of the Ketus. Dialectically, Ketu-Mala was often called Shetu-Mala.

4. Ketu-Mala or Shetu-Mala is Chetumal bay in Mexico's Quintana Roo. See the map.

Now, let's find out whether it is true that the Cherokees came from Mexico. One of the names of the tribe is Ketuva (Ketu-Land). Presto! Bullseye! Ket/Shet/Cad/Khatti, etc. are also names of the Phoenicians. Since the Phoenicians said that their secret nation was Al Atlantis and that all of Quivira (Kheeberia) belonged to them, we know that their secret continent was all of North America.

In this way, I can find the origin of all our native tribes - if, and only if, they have a well developed origin mythology, such as the Hopis, Cherokees, Mayans, etc. Yes, the Cherokees are on target. They came here from Mexico.

Sincerely, Gene





I wish I could say I'm O.K. Two weeks ago, I went to the dentist to get a root canal because a molar was really hurting. After the root canal, I suggested to my wife that we run over to Las Vegas for two nights. By the time we got there, the anesthesia had worn off. The tooth really started hurting. For two weeks I was in agony, but advil sometimes took away the pain. I went back to the dentist today and discovered that they had worked on the wrong tooth! I was angry at first, but I'm now calming down a little. The other tooth, though needing a root canal also, did not hurt me at all. Tomorrow, I'm going back to the dentist to get the root canal on this one. From now on, when I go to the dentist, I'm going to make sure they get to the tooth that hurts. I don't like to go to a dentist until something really starts hurting.



This, this is really exciting news below. My wife and I are going to Algodones, Mexico, near Yuma, tomorrow for dental work. If we don't spend too much money, we're going to double back, to see Wupatki. The wonderful thing about this find is that some orthodox academics found it. They found a map of South America on a wall there.

http://www.maphist.nl/illustr.html

There's an article is this month's Discover magazine about the DNA of the Melungeons. Sure enough, they are part American Indian, part Mediterranean, and part Asian Indian.

These are exciting times. We're being vindicated. The American Indians belong to the rest of the human race after all! They, too, are from "somewhere else."

By the way, I ordered the book about the Cherokees. About three weeks have passed, and I haven't received it yet.

Gene

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